Have you been feeling ill lately? Perhaps you feel mentally foggy, feverish, congested, or weak in the heart? Are you experiencing itchy skin?
If so, you might want to carefully monitor your onset of symptoms, and see if they immediately follow aerosol spraying in the sky.
It’s hard to believe, but this is happening: people all over the United States have been reporting a blatant, easily observable escalation of geoengineering/chemtrail activity in the past 3 months, often followed by flu-like symptoms. I’m going to call this the “Geoengineering Escalation of 2016.”
If you’re not familiar with chemtrails/geoengineering, you might want to research the well documented and easily verifiable history of the US government experimenting on citizens with biological creations, often sprayed out of airplanes: from the 1966 San Francisco spraying of bacteria on unsuspecting civilians, to the 1955 “Operation Drop Kick,” which released infected mosquitoes on poor African American populations in Georgia and Florida without their knowledge or consent. A comprehensive timeline of experiments on US citizens can be found here.
For the geoengineering aspect of “chemtrails,” widely considered to be the more prevalent application of aerosol technology, you could watch Dane Wigington and his team of experts at Shasta County town hall, or this 2005 documentary entitled Aerosol Crimes, or the wildly popular What in the World Are They Spraying documentary, or Peter A. Kirby’s comprehensive history of geoengineering, either in audio form or article form.
Note: “chemtrails” for geoengineering (altering the weather) and “chemtrails” for biological purposes are understood to be two different things. They are difficult to differentiate, so for the purposes of this article, we will use the slang term “chemtrails.” Aerosols sprayed out of aircraft can be used for many things.
This is my personal experience: about 3 months ago, I started noticing heavy chemtrailing in my area: Sacramento, California.
I took several videos. The audio is taken out, I was just exclaiming how intense the trails were: this is the first set of videos I took, in February 2016.
Then one day about a month ago, we received a wave of chemtrails that far surpassed anything I’ve ever seen. As an observant lover of the Sun and outdoors, it was blatantly obvious to me when this new phase of spraying kicked off in early 2016.
This video was recorded on March 15th, 2016.
My friends in South Carolina, Houston, Cincinnati, and all over California experienced a wave of spraying at the exact same time. Facebook groups and online communities dedicated to monitoring aerosol activities exploded with photographic evidence and theory.
Fellow writer and researcher Brandon Turbeville of Florence, South Carolina had this recent account to contribute:
Basically, at about 6:30 a.m. I noticed heavy chemtrailing over the horizon. By 7:30, the chemtrails were as thick and heavy as you see in the picture. By about 8:30, the horizon was completely milky white. For the rest of the day, the entire sky was covered in a thick white haze. This lasted for the entire day.Toward the end of the day and in the morning of the next day, myself and many other individuals in the area began exhibiting signs of what appeared to be allergy attacks and respiratory illness. It was that strange feeling that you were coming down with something but you were not actually sick, just exhibiting the symptoms of being sick, i.e. burning/watery eyes, burning/itching nose, sneezing, coughing, and something deep within your lungs.
The chemtrails have continued, although not to the same extent as the day in question and so has the illness. It seems that the heavier the spray, the worse the illness tends to be and the more people it tends to affect.
Like many across the US, including renowned geoengineering researcher and author Peter A. Kirby, I didn’t see as much chemtrailing activity in 2015: the last time it was this severe in Sacramento was probably 2013, with the exception of certain bursts of activity.
Further up in Northern California, leading geoengineering researcher and conservationist Dane Wigington observed a much more consistent program of spraying in the last several years.
Symptoms:
The chemtrails this time have an extremely distinct smell: I’ve never actually been able to notice any odor from them, but this time there is the same distinct odor every time spraying occurs. They smell starchy, like needles to the nose, a little bit metallic, kind of “hospital-like” although I can’t quite put my finger on an accurate comparison to this smell.
Every time someone opens a window during spraying in a house in my area, the whole house will get filled with this odor. It’s a powdery, metallic, starchy, irritating to the nose odor, that seems to settle and largely disappear within 24 hours of windows being opened. It seems to be occurring every day, only becoming less noticeable when there are true rain clouds in the sky. For some reason the smell is gone when thick rain clouds are in the sky.
Every time I get exposed to this smell, it’s followed by an onset of flu-like symptoms.
Experiencing this firsthand is very clear indication to me that these aerosols are causing the flu-like symptoms. I also experience itchy skin, dry skin, and some kind of red bumps on my shoulders, back, and arms that were not there before February.
There’s a reason why people are making videos about “chemtrail-flu” right now, recounting stories that parallel mine, and there’s a reason why they would get thousands of views on YouTube so quickly: we’re all going through some kind of escalation of aerosol spraying right now. For example, here is another person’s recent recollection of chemtrail-flu and their remedy, published on March 3rd, 2016.
Here is another recent observation of this chemtrail-flu, and here is another.
Geoengineering is widely believed to be the primary reason for “chemtrails,” altering the weather, but why is it causing these flu symptoms? People who understand chemtrails contain barium, aluminum, strontium and other heavy metals recognize that these materials make us sick, too, but it would seem as if there’s some kind of biological component to this newest cocktail of toxins being rained down upon us.
At the moment I write this, I feel another wave of flu-like symptoms (that seem to disappear before I get a full-blown cold, thank you good health, natural diet and exercise).
I’m feeling mental fog, an unusual dull pain in my chest, a clogged up feeling in my lungs, congestion in the back of my throat, a metallic taste in my mouth, and dizziness. It’s not unbearably intense, as intense as I predict it would be if I were going outside more often and breathing this in more, but I’ve been making efforts to avoid it. Others around me are doing a bit worse.
Hopefully this info helped. Please don’t hesitate to speak up about chemtrails, and please carefully observe your health to see if your flu-like symptoms are preceded by a heavy spraying in the skies. Perhaps you could sit down and watch one of those videos or documentaries with a family member.
Many people with a healthy sense of observation and reason have been correlating aerosol activity with these flu-like symptoms, and this wouldn’t be the first time our government tested biological materials on us.
And if you weren’t aware, chemtrail-conscious country musician Merle Haggard died of pneumonia last week. Many speculate it was due to this “chemtrail flu,” though the correlation is not yet definitive. On a personal note, a girl I went to high school with in Texas died of an asthma attack last week, after accounts of heavy spraying in Houston, San Antonio, and Central Texas, may her soul rest in peace. I’m not sure there is a correlation there.
Please share this with as many people as possible, click the links, do the research, and pay close attention. The mainstream media never dares speak of things like this, and have remained silent throughout the last 6 decades of aerosol crimes happening to us, until the incidents were impossible to deny.
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Yes, I live in Hoboken, NJ just a mile across NYC. I’ve been sick the last 2 days with this chem-rail flu. However,neighbors ha’ve been ill a week already and so have many other people I know in town also. It starts with burning eyes, sneezing, coughing- just like allergies then a bacterial infection sets in with yellow hooky stuff coming out of your sinuses. I am prone to allergies and these are not regular allergies. They spray our skies night and day. The last time I remember a clear sky, a bright sunny day, or stars was in the NYC skyline was in 2006!!! We need to organize against these chemtrails. They are making us sick and keeping us sick so we only have enough energy to work then collapse. In the 2000 dicennial 20% of the US population didn’t live to 50 and the number 3 cause of death in the US was lung failure. It was the #1 cause of death in the Northeast. No figures came out for 2010. Why?
The trails observed are always in the stratosphere–30-40,000 ft, where water vapor from emissions freezes. You have never seen “chemtrails” at lower levels. At this altitude, the trails can spread out and form cirrus clouds, which tend to slightly warm the atmosphere. The air currents at this altitude will carry the emissions for thousands of miles over months before, in a highly diluted form, they fall to earth, with 2/3 going into the ocean.
Thus, anything released at this altitude which is seen spreading out cannot possibly be used to target populations beneath. If you see trails in the stratosphere, there is no way they can effect you physically, since they will travel thousands of miles before falling to earth. They may effect you psychologically, through your belief that they are meant to poison you, which may make you sick.
I challenge anyone to show such trails at altitudes where it would be possible to target populations, including the lower rainclouds. I challenge you to present photos of “chemtrails” not observed at altitudes where it is impossible to target populations below. I am not asking for the usual personal insults and accusations but images of “chemtrails” which are NOT in the stratosphere. There are no such images because these trails are the result of frozen vapor in the freezing stratosphere and do not form at lower altitudes. I await the evidence. I also challenge anyone to present images of white trails which do not spread out horizontally, as they are blown apart by air currents (and carried thousands of miles) but which fall directly to earth. If you cannot find or take such photos, it is because the trails called chemtrails cannot occur except in the very freezing temperatures of the stratosphere and cannot fall directly down as would be necessary if used to target populations.
I also challenge you to do your own research: google the commercial flight paths in your area and then observe the “chemtrails.” What you will find, and I invite you to observe for yourself, is that the trails exactly match the normal commercial flight paths. The simplest explanation, using Occam’s razor, is that what you are observing are contrails, frozen emission vapors (containing both water and jet fuel pollutants) from normal commercial flights. Do it! Look up the flight paths and then observe with your own eyes whether the trails you see follow the flight paths of commercial planes, of which there are over a million flights a year, increasing the number of observed contrails as the flights increase.
Do it! Don’t trust anyone: do your own research and draw your own conclusions, independent of what you have heard or read. And if you are getting sick, consider that the idea that you are being poisoned can make you sick, not to mention that at ground level, you are breathing air that is heavily polluted from internal combustion engines, industrial waste, and fossil fuel production. Those who shift the cost of such pollution, which not only sickens but kills millions worldwide each year, want you to believe your sickness has nothing to do with their emissions but rather a nefarious government plot to kill you. Who benefits from the chemtrail theory? Those who wish to distract the public and thus avoid legislation and regulation which would shift the cost of fossil fuel pollution, which the IMF estimates is subsidized by 5 trillion a year by the public in the cost of health and environmental damage, back to the producers and thus compel them to clean up their act to avoid penalties or taxes on polliution.
In other words, the chemtrail theory is an operation of mass distraction used to cover up the results of known pollution and to demonize the government, the only agency with the power to curb the lethal emissions which no one denies but can be ignored if we obsess about those white trails in the sky.
Do your own research and ask Who benefits from the chemtrail theory? And if you are sick, consider your actual environment which likely is being poisoned every day cars, trucks, refineries, industrial and agricultural waste.
Who do you work for?
Who do you work for? Koch brothers?
Forget the smearing innuendos and do your own research and ask who benefits.
Do the research and report back…unless those who pay you to troll object.
I agree with the fact that we need to regulate polluters, especially big coal, but what is happening is beyond big coal. Look I knew someone indirectly who worked for the US military and I know another who, regardless of what he says, worked for the Israeli military. Both are experts in biological warfare. Both state chemtrails are real. This statement by itself is irrelevant because it’s open knowledge. The governments of England, Italy, Sweden , Germany, and Russia admit to them. Check out Oxford Univerity’s Geoengineering degree. No, what makes it relevant is they have worked on and have admitted to creating man-made biological pathogens & dropping them on the public in chemtrails. When in 2007 or so I was not well the Israeli doctor not only knew what symptoms I had but had asked if I had been in a certain part of Queens, NY. When I said no he then said you must have been so & so, which was correct. How could he know? He refused to tell me how he knew about the spraying only that he knew & that he knows what they are spraying us with, usually when, and that it’s a fact they are spraying us to make us ill. So yes we need to fight Big Coal and Big Industry but also our government poisoning is.
“. Both state chemtrails are real.” Working for the military does not make you an atmospheric scientists, all of whom explain the white trails we see as persistent contrails, which require no other explanation (Occam’s razor). Millions believe chemtrails are real; millions believe the earth is 6000 yrs old, that the earth is NOT warming, that Obama is a Kenyan Marxist Muslim, etc.
I ask you to do your own research, as I detail in my original post. No government on earth has “admitted” it is using chemtrials to change the climate or make people sick.
Nor does anyone doubt the concept of geoengineering or that proposals have been made and on a very limited scale, experiments conducted. Seeing rain clouds with silver is common and even native Americans used this technology by burning silver. But this seeding is not done in the stratosphere, where the trails appear but at the much lower altitude of rain clouds. And that is real geo-engineering but it is done to bring more rain, not to cool the atmosphere or kill people.
I cannot say nothing more except to advise you to do your own research if you do not believe the research of the world’s actual atmospheric scientists. Do not go by what you are told or read but find out for yourself whether you can find trails that are not at the level of cirrus clouds (ie in the stratosphere, where it is impossible to target populations due to air currents) and whether the trails YOU observe match exactly the published flight plans of normal commercial flights.
Also, investigate whether you live near roads which are filled with the sickening emissions of cars and trucks, industries which spew pollutants into the air or store, and other sources of pollution. Fossil fuel pollution kills millions each year, and it is worth nothing that ordinary contrails contain fossil fuel pollutants, which the EPA, which regulates ground level pollution, is seeking authority to regulate, since they too add to the poisons in the atmosphere, tho they cannot be targeted, yet in time they all fall to earth, and even the 2/3 that fall into the ocean increase acidification and are harmful.
So do it! Do your own research! You have only your chains to lose. Only the truth will make you free. I have given you tools to find the truth for yourself…….what is stopping you?
And I would welcome the logic by which the government, which is after all controlled by corporate oligarchies in the banks, energy, defense, gi ag, big pharma etc wants to poison us, other than the known poison of burning fossil fuels and industrial waste?
It is not a “fact” the government is spraying you to make you ill. That is a belief, no doubt funded by Big Energy to distract you from their shifting the cost of poisoning you to YOU! But don’t believe me or even the world’s atmospheric scientists: do your own research and report back.
I also urge you to look at the studies done on illness induced by our own beliefs and thoughts. gilead.net reports: “Science is beginning to confirm what certain wise men have said at different points in history. King David said, “A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.” Prov. 17:22. Your mind and mental state can have a profound affect on your physical body, your spiritual experience, and your over-all quality of life. The mind, the body, and the spirit are all inextricably interconnected. When one is affected, the other two suffer. We can live a healthy lifestyle and perform our spiritual duties, but if the mind is not healthy the other two cannot make up for the lack, and we are not truly wholistically healthy or healed.
Physical problems: Worry, anger, jealousy, hate, ill will, grudges, vindictiveness, irritation, resentment, guilt, depression, anxiety, lack of joy and happiness, and all other negative emotions and thoughts have a negative effect upon the body and open the door for sickness and disease. There are now quite a number of cases where a disease or sickness or altered health can be traced back to a mental cause.”
If I thought the government was poisoning me, it would make me sick too! Just as our thoughts can heal us, they can sicken us.
So let me get this straight- illnesses are all caused by our thoughts. TB, syphillis, common colds, cancer- all in our minds? Please tell that to someone else. I have done my research. Other governments do admit to geoengineering that’s a fact. I don’t know who you troll for and don’t care.
“Your mind and mental state can have a profound affect on your physical body,”
No one is claiming “illnesses are all caused by our thoughts,,,”
But mental state can lower your immune system and make you sick or more vulnerable to disease.
There are no governments which claim to be geoengineering (which includes such as cloud seeding to produce rain) to either poison people or cool the atmosphere. You cannot provide any evidence and clearly, any government which DID do those things would not admit it. I await your source.
Claiming something is a fact, without providing support, is just an opinion.
I don’t troll for anyone: I am urging you to do your own research, something a troll would not do. You are using name-calling because you are afraid that your own research would prove that your sources (unnamed) have brainwashed you.
To repeat: illnesses CAN be caused by our thoughts.
Trolls make unsupported claims….but do NOT urge you to do your
research in the quest for the truth.
Don’t lie that you have correlated published flight paths with
observed white trails: you have NOT done this! You have read
articles not by atmospheric scientists on websites: that is NOT re
search; that is parroting mythology.
And you have not observed “chemtrails” lower than the level of cirrus clouds (around 30,000 ft where the air is sub zero and freezes airplane emissions), and so you are lying that you have done this. You are afraid of the truth; you belong to what sociologists call a crisis cult, inventing or believing absurd theories to explain what plain science easily explains by observation and the laws of physics.
I will waste no more time with you. You are unwilling to find the truth for yourself and have in one short post both totally distorted the facts I have presented about self-induced illness, possible sources to investigate in case it is physically caused, and how to prove or disprove for yourself whether “chemtrails” designed to poison people really exist. You can take a horse to water but you can’t make him think.
“Claiming something is a fact, without providing support, is just an opinion.”
You would do well to remember that, Mr. Ruff.
He is a paid shill. Don’t waste time argueing with someone who isn’t interested in debate, only dissent and distraction.
They are spraying to hide Planet X and nothing else!
Dont waste your time with trolls, Jess. They get paid to be here…
Only a paid shill would take the time to write such a huge comment with such an obvious agenda. Who benefits indeed.
Even you know your libel is a lie, as a paid shill is taught to smear any information that it seeks to suppress as the work of a paid shill.
Ad hominems are logical fallacies, used to distract attention from a rational and fact-based response. Your response is a simple lie.
I urge you to listen to the facts: emissions in the stratosphere cannot be used to target populations since they are carried by air currents over thousands off miles over months before, highly diluted, descending to earth.
NOr do paid shills ask you to do your own research, as I detail to find “chemtrails” at an altitude that would work to target populations and to observe (and document with pics) trails which do not exactly match published commercial light plans. My guess is you didn’t even read my post but concluded since it was long and detailed to register a personal accusation of corruption. I will forgive you your libel and urge you, once again, to study the behavior of particles in the stratosphere and to do your own research to document “chemtrails” observed at lower altitudes, where they could possibly be intended to target populations and to document chemtrails which are not in the normal light paths of commercial airlines.
So do your own research, friend. Do not believe me or the atmospheric scientists: prove with empirical evidence the existence of chemtrails at lower altitudes and those that do not match known light paths of commercial airlines.
And stop lying. No one will believe you if you lie, least of all yourself.
You can do your own research and you can confirm the air currents in the stratosphere, tho if you have ever been on a commercial flight, you will have experienced them. And it wouldn’t hurt to read some studies on the effects of powerful air currents in the upper atmosphere , which move dust from Africa to Latin America (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Dust/).
So screw up your courage and do the research I have suggested to test your beliefs.
I am not paid to tell people to study atmospheric science and conduct their own research.
But I will take donations. MY agenda is the truth. find it for yourself, brother. Learning is its own reward. And only the truth will liberate you from your paranoia..
I am not your friend, or your brother, and I don’t need your forgiveness or your condescending attitude. There is absolutely no logical reason for someone to defend or attempt to deflect what is clearly happening over people’s heads day after day. No research is necessary to see what is plainer than plain. It doesn’t matter what they are spraying or why, only that they are destroying the skies, the earth and everything that depends on sunshine. Your little pseudo-scientific cloud explanation is a joke.
I treat all people as friends. I am sorry tht treating you with respect offends you.
As you did lie about me, you do require to be forgiven, and as your friend, I forgive you for lying about me.
What you see is totally explained by the scientific explanation off water vapor freezing in the sub zero stratosphere. That is basic science. You may believe these persistent contrails are deliberate “chemtrails” but you can disabuse yourself of this theory by doing the research I have advocated.
When you see white trials 30,000 ft in the sky, you cannot assert you know they are “chemtrails.” That is a belief. I do not think the science of the atmosphere is pseudo, but don’t believe the actual scientists who study the atmosphere; do you own empirical research and determine the truth for yourself.
I am not sure who the “they”” is who are destroying the earth or why. It sounds like classic paranoia. No research is necessary”? that is not science, my friend; that is belief. What is plain is that you are afraid to subject your beliefs to empirical testing. That is the nature of a cult, in this case a crisis cult.
You see what you believe. We both see white trails at the level of cirrus clouds.
I see what scientists describe as persistent contrails, matching the flight plans off commercial planes; you see a deadly spray spread by evil people seeking to destroy the earth. I suggest you cannot see that but you can believe it.
You need some logic lessons. If you see something and I see the same thing, you believe one thing and I believe another… both are beliefs, including yours because you don’t know Jack Sheet except what you read and now believe yourself. See how this works, silly boy? You rely on falsified science, I rely on my eye balls. I will repeat it since you are so blinded by your beliefs that you cannot understand what I said…. constant clouds created by planes that hide the sun day after day are not good for the earth. There is nothing to argue about that. Nothing. But go ahead and issue some more orders, accuse me of being afraid, write as many long-winded paragraphs as you get paid to write, forgive me some more, whatever. The sky is being destroyed and all your stupid statements will not change that.
Too bad Disqus does not have an iggy feature to filter people. I get sick of getting eyefuls of shillery, deception, diversion, and dishonesty on these comment-o-boards.
The other way of looking at it is that these forums provide a great opportunity to show everyone how shills operate, how to spot them, etc. When I find one that is particularly annoying like this one, It’s my duty as a truth warrior to dismember their canned arguments and leave the body parts lying around for all to see.
Great! Keep up the fantastic work. 🙂
I am a 54yr old lady, who has been knowing about, and reading every article I come across, about chemtrails. Because I learned about it first, my family now knows about these. We also know now, that we will have a 95% chance it will rain, within 5 days of seeing these. I learned how to eat right, so I’ve been eating mostly organic foods and drinks. (Not from China either) .. I’ve never noticed anything wrong with me, when they spray heavily here. But now I’m starting to wonder why my hands but mostly my fingers are wanting to lock up hard every couple of weeks or so. I just had a lot of chemtrails go through two days ago, and two days straight ( and yes, now it’s raining all day). I’m thinking now, it might be what it is in the chemtrails making my fingers to want to lock up. I don’t know if it’s arthritis or not, but it scares me, because they want to lock up really hard, and I really have to bend them hard, so they don’t get locked up in some weird position. I’ve never put those chemtrails, and my fingers freezing up, together, so now I’m going to see if it happens again, next time theirs a heavy chemtrailing. I was wondering if this is happening to others? I plan on talking to my doctor too, on the next visit, and see what he says. (I won’t be bringing up chemtrails though!) I sure hate to see those things messing up a beautiful blue sky. Why hasn’t anyone done anything about it yet? I’ve watched all the documentaries on it, but still no answers on when it will stop!
There will be doctors who will make fun of you and others who won’t. But we shouldn’t be afraid to express the truth. Otherwise how can we spread the truth? I knew 2 people, one a doctor, who always made fun of me; for years! None make fun of me any longer. The doctor treated someone involved in biological warfare. He was skeptical at first, especially when he told him to take his family that week out of the spray zone. That was until his kids became very ill and his office was flooded with patients sick from the chemtrails. The other is too embarrassed to even contact me after sending him so many links proving chemtrails- that and I suspect he and numerous acquaintances were all sick like dogs.
Thanks for the info!
God is still in control, Joan. Dont seem like it though does it? Also check your iodine and magnesium levels. If you are drinking pure water you still need to add your minerals!
Thanks Brett! I know who is here on this earth right now! It says it right here in my bible:
Luke 10:17-18
Like a great lightning bolt streaking out of the sky, this brilliant angel, shining with all of his glory—glory given to him by God—was cast to the earth. Where did he fall? He fell right where we are, to the earth, and now we have to deal with him.
Revelation 12:9
So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole WORLD; he was cast to the EARTH, and his angels were cast out with him.
Revelation 12:l2
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the EARTH and of the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
So, we know that God’s hand is holding a lot of evil down, untill His judgement, when He removes His hand, and evil can run rampant..starting with the beginning of the tribulation.
Yeah, sometimes we have to wonder where God is, when satan is working harder on us, because he knows his time is short!
Thanks for the advice on the minerals!
Good stuff! We need to understand the power available to us in BELIEF and FAITH. These things are there for all of us regardless of who we are and what we may know. We will become witness to some pretty amazing things in the next few years I think. ‘Everything is possible for him who, BELIEVES’ Mark 9:23
Dr. Perlinieri is not a doctor of PH.d but a fake. She has a masters in art history from San Diego State. You will find no actual atmospheric scientists who have peer-reviewed research who accept the theory of chemtrails. I urge you to do your own research or accept what actual atmospheric scientists have discovered (that the white trails you see in the stratosphere are frozen emissions from normal flights). If you don’t believe the actual scientists, do your own research.
My husband has been a scientist for over 40 yrs and he says these are NOT contrails from jets. He knows what he’s talking about. Contrails don’t cover the entire sky like a tic-tac-toe board and don’t keep expanding and spread out to turn the sky white, nor do they stay in the sky for hours. BTW, it is almost impossible for today’s jets to create contrails. I’ve watched the sky my entire life and am 61 y.o. also was a flight attendant for many yrs and I know damn well these are NOT contrails. I’ve never seen anything like this until several yrs ago in the sky. I’ve watched them spray every single day for years over our home in rural TN when we lived there and the sky was covered with this stuff; you didn’t see sun for 6 weeks at a time in the summer. Our woods began to die and there was so much rain you could smell the mold everywhere outside and it made you sick. It is killing all the wildlife, especially the insects. When we drove literally across the entire country last summer, we never needed to clean our windshield even once from bug splats – there weren’t any. We watched as masses of fireflies, bees, frogs butterflies and cicadas ALL died. We moved to TN in 2005 which was full of wildlife; 10 yrs later there was barely any life left. We had one frog, 2 bees and 2 butterflies. That was it, nothing else. The rabbits, possums, etc. all died and had nothing to eat, the insects, and many plants were gone, the nut and fruit trees produced nothing and no berries on the many wild berry bushes. This is all from chemtrails.
Your husband is not an atmospheric scientist nor has he done research on emissions in the atmosphere.
Contrails do spread out to become cirrus clouds and cover the sky.
Today’s jets do create contrails (if you follow my advice and do your own research and match flight paths to observed trails, you can prove this to yourself), often more so than the older jet engines.
You can access photographs of contrails going back to WWII.
The trails you observe are in the stratosphere, where they spread out and are are carried thousands of miles over weeks and months, highly diluted, before falling to earth (2/3 into the ocean)…and therefore, they cannot be used to target populations, and the cirrus clouds they form do not cool but warm the atmosphere.
How do I know this? 1. I have read what actual atmospheric scientists have found and 2. I have done my own research and found exact matches of published commercial airline flight paths and observed trails.
I urge you to take the word of actual atmospheric scientists and to do your own research, as I have suggested. You will not see any trails at a level where the population could be targeted. You will never see such trails for instance even at the level of rain clouds.
They are always (and I urge you to use your own eyes) in the stratosphere, at the level of commercial flights (28-38,000 ft), where the temperature is sub-zero and and the vapor emitted by jet engines freezes. I can’t do any better than to urge you to believe the actual experts in the field and to do your own research.
Anything else cannot claim credibility.
“I urge you take the word of actual atmospheric scientists…”
Would these be the atmospheric scientists who designed the chemtrail planes? Or the chemical compounds being sprayed? Or those atmospheric scientists who issue the current weather schedule based on the weather they are creating? Or how about those scientists who wrote and received geoengineering patents? Why would they lie and lose their jobs and all that money?
I urge you to try some critical thinking regarding listening to sources with vested interests.
Atmospheric scientistsi, over 10,000 in 180 nations, do not design planes but do research on events in the atmosphere. Nor do they design toxic sprays. The pictures you have seen of planes with tanks are part of experiments to test planes by moving water to different areas of the plane to assess performance.
Re geoengineering patents:
Patents don’t need to work in order to be patentable
Even if they do work, they don’t need to describe something that exists
Patents are often filed speculatively (95% never get used).
YOu do not have to be an atmospheric scientist to file a geo-engineering patent. And I would estimate 99.9% of atmospheric scientists have never filed such patents.
I urge you to actually read what actual atmospheric scientists have described as the behavior of emissions in the atmosphere and stop believing amateurs who are make money by pandering to paranoia to gather eyeballs to make money on advertising or are funded by those with a financial interest in distracting the public, as with the climate denial funders (the fossil fuel industry).
If you have evidence of atmospheric scientist who have designed spray planes, toxins, or geoengineering patents, please provide your sources. I don’t think you can, except for undocumented websites which are run not by atmospheric scientists but those who have pandered to scientifically illiterates like yourself.
I urge you to do your own research if you do not believe the 10,000 atmospheric scientists in 180 nations, as I wrote in my previous post. Do it! Take pictures of chemtrails below the cirrus cloud level (where air currents move emissions thousands of miles over months, something known as atmospheric science) and print out the flight paths of commericial flights in your area and then match to observed “chemtrails.” You can prove me wrong by documenting chemtrails at lower than stratospheric altitudes and showing they are not correlated to published commercial flight paths. This requires no belief in scientists but only accurate and documented observation (empirical science). I have made this challenge for many years, and no chemtrail believer has ever come back with any evidence of sub-stratospheric chemtrails or any which do not exactly match commercial flight paths. I have done this research (I study the sky every day for many years) in several different regions and the trails always 100% match flight paths and never appear below the level of cirrus clouds. I urge you to do your own research and prove the world’s atmospheric scientists are all frauds……and that my own person research is faked. Go ahead! Do it! Believe no one: find out for yourself and be sure to take pictures to document your discovery of fraud by actual scientists. Are you willing to test your beliefs with empirical evidence: go for it!
I’m sick of being lied to by scientists, all of them, all my life.
“Don’t let sunshine on your skin, you’ll get cancer.”
“Fluoride is good for you.”
“Fat makes you fat.”
“This drug will cure you.”
“Cannabis is evil.”
“Chemicals won’t hurt you.”
“GMO is saving the world.”
Need I go on?
I live in a rather rare place, surrounded by literally millions of acres of wilderness and not a single airport within hundreds of miles. I go weeks without seeing a single plane. Then, all of a sudden, I’m looking up at carefully laid out plaid skies right over my head. It used to rain here, it doesn’t anymore because whatever they are spraying is holding the moisture in the atmosphere to be moved elsewhere to create storms and floods. You’re the one not paying attention.
Your silly challenge rests on completely erroneous assumptions, that’s why no one bothers to respond to it. And those sub-stratospheric clouds you so badly want pictures of don’t exit because they only spray on nice blue sky days when there is a storm system coming this way and then the sky is a muddy mess with holographic colors that are not natural. What they are doing to the earth sucks, just like your post.
I agree that scientists who work for corporations have a record of corporate friendly research, but this does not implicate all scientists. For instance, the 18 scientists on the UN team that looked at the scientiic studies on GMOs concluded they cause cancer in lab animals and are a likely carcinogen for humans.
You must beware of those with a conflict of interest but this is no reason to dismiss all scientists . You paint a cartoon of cherrypicked claims made by some scientists.
Most scientists have excellent salaries and do honest research and have no motive to lie. If you do not believe honest scientists, yhou are left believing the propaganda of the corporations.
My challenge is not silly. It gives you a way to do your own research based on empirical evidence. No one has ever produced pictures of “chemtrails” NOT at the level of normal commercial airline cruising altitude nor of “chemtrails” which do not match published flight paths….because they do not exist. You can easily prove me wrong….but you are afraid to test your beliefs by subjecting them to actual observation. Your absurd claims about only sprayhon on nice blue sky days with storms coming is just made up……..you personal insults mask your fear of proving yourself wrong by doing the research I advise. Do it on nice blue sky days…show me pictures of chemtrails not at a level where they are carried by strong wind currents thousands of miles over months; show me “chemtrails” which do not match ordinary flight paths. Do the empirical science and stop hiding behind name calling and the logical fallacy of personal insults.
Do it! You can prove me wrong………why are you araid to test your beliefs?
You say you live in the wilderness? Why would the government, or whoever, spray over the wilderness if the goal is to poison humans. Why don’t you check the flight patterns, which may only occur on certain days, for your area. Many flights cross over relatively unpopulated areas. For instance, Sedona, Az, where I have done this research (as well as coastal Calii) is in a vast desert wildnerness but the flights from Phoenix to Seattle and from LA to back east criss cross right over Sedona, The contrails I observe on a daily basis in Santa Cruz County match the flights coming and going rom LA to San Jose.
And you have ever seen trails below the altitude where strong air currents carry them off hundreds and thousands of miles. You have never seen them at the level of rain clouds. If you ever do, you can refute the work of the world’s 10,00 atmospheric scientists in 180 nations. But you have to be willing to observe and record to prove the claims you are making. I challenge you to take those pictures! Put up or shut up. Provide evidence, which you yourself can document by doing the empirical research I have suggested. Grow some balls and do it? You have nothing to lose but your illusions. Report back when you have done the research, which is not based on any assumptions but only empirical observation.
I love this – “corporate-friendly research.” Is this a euphemism you made up for fraud? And this is the research you think I should study? What a freaking waste of time. Take photos! Stop being afraid! Report back! Grow some balls! I can’t grow balls, I’m a woman, and the rest of what you wrote is just as fallacious. You’re really good at giving orders, here’s one for you: give it up, ruff. You’re annoying and no one believes a single word you’ve written. Not one single word.
This is a commonly used term and it may or may not be good science. It is not necessarily fraud, since it was the Exxon scientists whose research in the late 70’s that confirmed the idea that burning fossil fuels was increasing global warming. This research was solid science, but Exxon buried it to prevent regulations to curb emissions, whose harm it externalized (shifted to the public).
Clear examples of fraudulent pseudo-science were the claims by tobacco scientists that tobacco was harmless. In fact, their internal research showed it was not but they lied or corporate pay.
Sooner or later, bogus science is exposed by the selff-corrective of peer-review.
Corporate friendly research is research which focuses on an issue which will
make the corporate claims look scientifcally supported. Unfriendly research is any, such as the studies that show glyphosate to be a carcinogen, which presents information which is harmful to a corporations s bottom line.
Corporate friendly research is not necessarily fraudulent, but where there is a conflict of interest (ie profits at stake) s kepticism is in order.
Yes, document (take pictures) to support your observations. This is empirical science.
Grow balls means have the courage to test your beliefs.
I am not giving orders but suggesting how you can subject your beliefs to empirical research to validate or falsify, a requirement of scientific claims.
95% of the public does NOT believe in chemtrails so I think the assertion that “no one believes a single word you have written” is objectively mistaken.
.Indeed, I have said do NOT believe me (or actual experts in the field) but undertake your own empirical research.
Clearly, you do not want to test your beliefs, in which case, you belong to a religious cult based on faith, not knowledge.
But again, I suggest you do your own research with documentation (for example, photographic evidence)….tho I suspect you are not willing to test your beliefs.
As or giving it up, I am committed to lifelong learning and will never give up the dispassionate search or knowledge. I you are annoyed by suggestions of how you can personally affirm or prove wrong your beliefs, it is because you are suffering from the threat of finding your beliefs to be illusions.
I will continue to stand with the scientiic community, the 95
% who do not believe in contrails, and the results of my own empirical research. You are entitled to your beliefs, my friend.
OMG you’re a such a hoot. “I will continue to stand with the scientific community, the 95% who do not BELIEVE in contrails.” So much for empirical research. And I’m the one in a cult? Keep writing Dale, you’re destroying your entire argument very nicely, piece by piece.
And now you are lying by omission.
You wrote (quoting part of what I said): “I will continue to stand with the scientific community, the 95% who do not BELIEVE in contrails.” So much for empirical research”
Here is what I wrote: I will continue to stand with the scientiic community, the 95
% who do not believe in contrails, and the results of my own empirical research.”
You truncated my full statement, the sin of omssion. And o curse, I stand with the community of scientists precisely because their work is based on empirical research.
I have no more interest in trying to reason with a liar. I urge you do do your own empirical research, and your response is to lie about what I have said. How sad.
Huh?
“Your husband is not an atmospheric scientist nor has he done research on emissions in the atmosphere.” You know this.
Sounds pretty dogmatic (well, domineering). You know this guy, Dale, this woman’s husband? You know for a fact that, while he may be a scientist, he’s not done research in this field, therefore his opinion is not worth spit? Have we intruded upon a private relationship? Elsewise, how could you know this?
Which begs the question: Since some of us have been reading your pontifical posts for years now without actually knowing the answer to it: “Who is the this Dale person, expert in all things?”
What were your qualifications, again? (We know you’ve mastered Wiki-Research, the Skeptical Inquirer, and Typing 101, but I mean why we should be letting you put us down for questioning the consensus reality, which you seem to be a limited hangout for?)
Inquiring minds are beginning to ask.
Jets of 50 years ago produced contrails, but not a one of them that I saw produced a cirrus cloud, or spread out to cause complete overcast conditions.
Ruff: Where are these photographs of chemtrails dating back to the wartime 1940s (skip the experimental German rocket planes using who knows what for fuel, how about the 1950s, ’60s, ’70s and ’80s)? Who are all these “atmospheric scientists” whose “empirical” evidence you keep referring to? (Empirical means based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than by theory or pure logic. You may call it anecdotal tinfoil wing-nut, but many people’s observations are, indeed, empirical by definition.)
I ask for old photographic and “scientific expert” links because:
1. After over 45 years of sky-watching, I began seeing horizon-to-horizon chemtrails suddenly in the latter half of the last decade of the last century. Not before then. I’m not alone in this.
2. After 60-odd years as an avid movie buff, I don’t see chemtrails occurring in the backdrop skies of movies till the late 1990s. Granted one can find the odd contrail in an old John Wayne or Gene Autry flick, but I wonder how a modern movie director can even depend on his light sources anymore, let alone keep chemtrails out of an outdoor shoot of a period piece.
3. I often see chemtrails which turn on suddenly, then turn off suddenly, then turn back on again. If so-called “persistent contrails” only occur in the stratosphere at freezing temperatures, how do they manage this?
4. Having lived all over the US, I now live in the high desert, on the southern border, where the population is very sparse compared to the coasts. Yet I often see chemtrails going every which way, and I cannot imagine where these “commercial jets” might be flying from or to.
4A. (I’m not unaware of the fact that any number of things could be added to commercial jet fuel to produce the effects known as chemtrails, without the airlines even being aware of it, but this would not account for ALL the observed heavenly phenomena in both our day and night skies since the late 1990s. And ONLY since then.)
5. We frequently go for days, even weeks, with barely a chemtrail to be seen in our clear blue sky, here. Then we get hammered with a few dozen in one day, often within just a few hours. You can go out and count over a dozen at one time, old ones, fresh ones, some just being laid down by a silver speck in the distance. On those days we no longer have the clear blue skies a few of us used to enjoy. Other days, Dale, your “normal” airline routes apparently aren’t used at all, for some reason. Well, some typically brief contrails, yes. Horizon-to-horizon chemtrails, no.
6. Over a period of years, the frequency of chemtrailing seems to increase and diminish, again for no discernible reason. A few years ago it was intense, then it died down significantly, now it’s starting back up again. While the troposphere seems to change gradually, overall, your freezing stratosphere seems to go through some extremely abrupt temperature fluctuations. As an explanation for “persistent contrails,” the rarified frozen stratosphere doesn’t seem terribly consistent.
I could go on, many here could, but…empirically speaking Dale, you’ve lost your audience for want of answers to these empirical conundrums. Millions upon millions of people have not suddenly gone insane, they have not abruptly woken up to something which has been happening with increasing frequency since their childhoods, right over their heads. They’re legitimately saying, “Whoa, WTF?”
I have taken out binoculars and watched some of the lowest flying jets nearly directly overhead (far from any commercial paths) and been unable to discern any markings on them. Why?
Chemtrails simply weren’t there. And then they were everywhere. No one has satisfactorily accounted for it with Occam’s Razor (the obvious answer is that millions upon millions of people worldwide have abruptly gone nuts in precisely the same way, including numerous experts you apparently choose to ignore?).
I suspect you spend too much time reading debunkers, Dale, not enough delving into what’s actually happening around you. Empirically, I mean. You need to get out more.
+100 for you! Every single line you wrote I too have empirically seen. (Except for that 60 years part. I’m young for that!)
We ought to swap notes. Have you been able to accurately predict the weather better than meteorologists when you factor in atmospheric aerosols being sprayed?
I also saw every single line he wrote and have empirical proof (screenshot). However, claiiming the white trails you see in the air current blown stratosphere in the flight paths of commercial airlines are sprayed poisons is an interpretation, not an empirical fact.
I did not once mention sprayed poisons, Dale. I said something is happening up there in our sky which was not there before. That’s empirical, Dale. I said it was not gradual, it started (at least on a massive scale) in the late 1990s. That’s empirical, Dale. I said many, many millions of people are seeing and saying the same thing. But…if you don’t get it, you won’t get it.
Let’s look at it this way. We can identify locusts, we’ve all seen them. We may even know the difference between a grasshopper, a cicada, and a locust. We can find many pictures of them taken over the years.
Suddenly one year we see hundreds of photographs (and videos) of plagues of locusts, outcries from all over the world. Locust plague deniers say so what? They’re called locusts, we’ve always had them, ask any entomologist. Locust plague noticers say: Hey! WTF?
And people like you insult our collective observational intelligence by saying that that which we are theorizing about is based on something quite normal, which has always been happening but we were just too dumb to notice, before. Ho hum, yawn.
Ho hum this, Dale: Why did the contrails of my youth (every last one of them) dissipate within seconds (as they often still do), while the behavior of what are called “chemtrails” (to distinguish them from normal contrail behavior) spread out to cover the sky and last for hours?
Empirical that one for us, Dale.
There’s something happening up there
What it is isn’t exactly clear.
It starts when your home isn’t free (apologies to CSNY)
What is happening is 3 time more flights than 45 yrs ago and the heightened attention plus the role of perception bias (we see what we expect to see). That’s an empirical fact which explains the increasing presence and awareness of the trails and cirrus clouds they form.
Only 5% believe in chemtrails, so your comments insult 95% of the populations (probably 99% worldwide). The theory of chemtrails is usually presented as a fact and without a shred of evidence other than: I saw it!
It is not me but the atmospheric scientists who explain the trails we observe as ordinary emissions, or persistent contrails. It is quote “normal.” Jet engines release pollutants and water which freezes in the sub-zero temperatures in the stratosphere, which is where all commercial flights cruise. You can verify this with your own research.
The contrails of your youth, when you likely paid hardly any attention, did not immediately dissipate. I gave a source for photographs to document that persistent contrails have been observed and photographed since at least the 40’s, when planes began routinely to fly at 30-35,000 ft where contrails are formed.
Atmospheric scientists confirm that normal contrails are often persistent, and if you don’t believe the scientists, do the research I have suggested.
Your ho hums suggest you are bored even by your own comments. I am not insulting your observations but urging you to confirm them with your own research. You can study pictures of persistent contrails from 70 years ago, you can match observed trails to published flight paths, you can confirm that such trails NEVER occur except at the level of cirrus clouds, where powerful air currents move them thousands of miles over a long period before whatever pollutants are carried fall to earth.
I offer no insults but a way to find the truth for yourself. That’s as empirical as you can get, friend.
Your apologies should go to Stephen Stills, who wrote and performed the song long before CSNY (with the Buffalo Springfield, in fact). And the words “there” and “clear,” don’t rhyme. Other than that, great first paragraph.
I actually read your source for persistent chemtrails, and I read the comments. I suggest you reread it. The owner of the site is a chemtrail debunker (nothing wrong with that, we all have our opinions) but there is a respondent named Bruce, in Scotland, who brings up issues hard to refute. Bruce says much what I’ve said: these things came up suddenly out of nowhere. In his case in a semi-remote part of Scotland where he’s been para-sailing for years. This is a man who of necessity studies the skies. He believes something is, indeed, going on. And he mentions that millions of others around the world have noticed the same. And he says quite specifically that it’s a new and sudden phenomenon. He’s well-spoken, worth the read.
I did, actually, pay attention to the skies in my youth, contrary to your presumptions. Those were the days of Sputnik and sky-writing and flying saucers and fear of atomic bombs, everybody paid attention to the skies. We had tornadoes where I lived, in the Midwest.
You keep talking about forty-plus years ago. The chemtrail phenomenon began in earnest 19 years ago.
Please see my post regarding occasional locust sightings, vs. locust plagues. The same could be said re: windy rain squalls and hurricanes. They’re not merely a difference in degree.
And quit already with the altitude issues. You think I’m bored with my own comments? I’m bored with reading the same defensive posturing about issues you’ve read about which no one here (certainly not I) have even brought up. We get that you’ve read some stuff, but so have many of us. Are they chemtrailing Denver, Chicago, or the entire eastern seaboard when Hawaiians see trails overhead?
The question is why they’re suddenly seeing them at all.
We get that you’ve grasped search engines, typing, etc. What we don’t understand is your insistence on the notion that no one else here has similar skills and tools at their command. I wouldn’t bring it up except, I see you do this wherever you go. Generally in opposition to original thoughts and observations, usually in the position of accepting the status quo and advising others to do the same. Pontificating from a higher realm of Internet erudition, essentially bullying fellow participants into shutting up. And why do that?
Here is a link to to Irish Weather Online which has a simple but scientific discussion of contrails. See the part that discusses when and how and why persistent contrails form.
https://irishweatheronline.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/contrails-v-chemtrails-the-science-that-debunks-the-conspiracy/
” Contrails can last from seconds to hours, depending on the relative humidity at cruising altitudes. If it is above around 70% then the contrails can last for hours.”
“A report just issued by Eurocontrol shows that air traffic in Europe grew by 80% from 1990-2015. Not surprising, therefore, that some people notice more contrails.”
This is an Irish website which reports on climate and weather, not the US govt or an agency you might not trust. The article is well worth reading and considering, but again, I urge everyone to do their own empirical research by observing at what altitude trails are observed and matching those observed to flight paths. If you want to deny any empirical evidence, by all means refuse to do your own research and continue to believe what you have read in the websites devoted to the chemtrails concept. If you demand the truth, learn a few uncontroversial facts of atmospheric science (temperatures, air currents, etc) and then collate your own observations. If you feel this is not worth doing, you are not really interested in evidence and you are, by definition, a member of a crisis cult.
Don’t care. I know what I know because I own the knowledge. You do not. There is no comparison between what you think because you are paid to and what I think because I came to conclusions myself based on my own human life experience. That is how free, healthy, well-adapted people operate. No zombies here to listen to your trub, bub.
Have you ever heard of search engines: type in “photographs of chemtrails dating back to the wartime 1940s” and you will find souces, including photos going back to the 40’s at http://contrailscience.com/contrail-photos-through-history/
Are you aware that air travel, which results in commercial flights leaving contrails in the stratosphere, have increased radically in the past 50 years. Today, there are approximately 29,000 domestic flights every day. That works out to be a little over 10 million flights per year.
“”On any given day, more than 87,000 flights are in the skies in the United States. Only one-third are commercial carriers, like American, United or Southwest. On an average day, air traffic controllers handle 28,537 commercial flights (major and regional airlines), 27,178 general aviation flights (private planes), 24,548 air taxi flights (planes for hire), 5,260 military flights and 2,148 air cargo flights (Federal Express, UPS, etc.). At any given moment, roughly 5,000 planes are in the skies above the United States. In one year, controllers handle an average of 64 million takeoffs and landings.”
The first jet flight across the North Atlantic was only in 1958, 58 years ago. Today, there are 1400 such flights each day.
” The number of air passengers tripled between the 1970s and 2011.”
What are those white trails we all see? Atmospheric scientists call them contrails. Do they track exactly with published commercial flights: they do. You can research yourself, as I have. Why do we see trails some days and not others?
Because they occur only when the temperature is sufficently cold. Trails can appear and disappear and reappear as planes fly through air that has different termperatures? Can we see toxic ingredients in those white trails? No, they are 5 or 6 miles away and all we see is the frozen water vapor?
If I think I see chemtrails, is that empirical evidence? NO, that is your intepretation of what you are viewing, which are white trails which slowly spread out horizontally (not downward, which would be required to target populations).
When do the jet fuel pollutants in those trails (which the EPA wants to regulate) come to earth? Only after being carried hundreds and thousands of miles over weeks and months, highly diluted, and 2/3 landing in the ocean.
Do “contrails” effect the weather? Yes, they slightly warm the atmosphere. You can also test this yourself. If I wanted to target populations to make people sick, what altitude would I need to spray at? Not at 30,000 ft where powerful air currents move the emissions (my most recent flight had winds of 50-70 mph, enough to carry spray 1500 miles in one day! The air temperature at 36,000 ft was recorded as minus 50). You would need to spray at the level of rain clouds, which is much lower. You will never see trails at this altitude, which would be required to be able, even roughly, to target. Trails are only seen in the higher stratosphere where there is freezing temperatures,never below. No one has ever produced evidence (photographic) of contrails or “chemtrails” not at the level of cirrus clouds, where the temperature is often sub zero and freezes the water vapor from jet engine emissions and slowly spreads out to form cirrus clouds, which are moved by air currents and warm the atmosphere.
Do your own research (I do not mean seeing a white trail and yelling “chemtrail”_) but by observations of the altitude of trails and matching them to published flight plans. Don’t believe anyone! Do your own research.
Wow, Dale… “Have you ever heard of search engines”…? Rilly?
Nope. I worked in the software industry for about a decade and a half, no one ever mentioned search engines. (What ARE those pesky little devils, anyway?) I have, however, been seeing and reading about chemtrails for nearly two decades. This is not the same as seeing UFOs, this is seeing the same thing everyone else can see on a fairly regular basis.
Please, stop telling us about how far air currents carry jet exhaust and how many more flights we now have vs. 50 years ago (sush, we know!).
Obviously, if there were chemtrail flights over the Pacific Ocean, they could in theory be targeting the US west coast. Flights over Phoenix could be aiming at St. Louis. IF there were a toxic spraying program in progress (I never said there was, mind you) they could issue a Go order on April 15 (all planes hit the skies) and begin logging results in May.
IF there is a basis to “chemtrail flu,” it would suggest the possibility that San Fran’s chemtrails might hit Denver at around the same time that Denver residents’ reported onslaught of chemtrails were being launched into the Jetstream destined for the Chicago area.
In other words, the ones you see aren’t intended for you. The ones you receive would be from somewhere to the west of you. Any program sufficiently advanced would take the Jetstream into account, along with gravity, much as a sniper takes Kentucky windage and trajectory into consideration.
Am I going too fast for your search engine, Dale? Maybe you need to take a break, go out and just breath the air, look at the clouds for a bit.
If you were aware of search engines and that the answer to your demand for photographs was two clicks away, why did you ask? Rilly? (sic)
What you see when you (and I look up) are white trails from planes. What they are is not explained in seeing them. You can believe the atmospheric scientists who explain them as normal contrails, and you can do your own research.
I note you demanded proof of persistent contrails from the past, I provided a link to documentation, and you then proceed to ignore the whole question. So let me repeat: persistent contrails have been observed and photographed since planes began to fly in the stratosphere; it is not a recent development.
So you ignore the evidence which refutes y our previous claims, and head of into new territory with more unsupported claims. If you want to target St. Louis, spray above Phoenix? Rilly?
On my recent flights (from Europe to the US and from Central America to California, I noted that the air currents would go from being tailwind (50-70 mph) to headwind. Clearly, no one could target a population thousands of miles away with that kind of erratic wind behavior, and besides, by times, a spray is carried thousands of miles, it is diluted to a huge degree. If you want to target a population and poison people (why is another question), you would do it at a much lower altitude, and you there are no trails at lower altitudes, such as that of rain clouds.
The article here gives some calculations on why spraying in the atmosphere would not be effective to poison people:https://irishweatheronline.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/contrails-v-chemtrails-the-science-that-debunks-the-conspiracy/
There is no credible way to spray above San Fransisco and target Denver…and even if the currents could be calculated to that degree, the spray would be diluted to a tiny percent of 1 percent of its original density…….it would be a total waste of money and barium.
You are grasping at straws which will not keep your beliefs afloat.
Well, since you refused to look at the photos which would refute your original claim,l and you are afraid to do your own research, that leaves you with nothing except your illusions. I study the sky every day, I have printed out the flight paths: in many years, I have never seen a trail below the stratosphere, which would be required for targetting, and I have not seen trails that did not match the publish flight paths. I looked at the sky today, totally blue…no contrails, suggesting that the atmosphere of the flights is not cold enough to cause the water produced by burning jet fuel to freeze. Maybe you need to open your mind, do your own research, learn a few basic facts of atmospheric science, and find the truth for yourself. Rilly!
The chemtrails are hiding Planet X!
the drug war is illegal and anyone who supports or enforces it belongs at the end of a rope for treason and genocide!
The
entire government are evil treasonous criminals. The day of the next
false flag using the nuke they stole in 2007 and blamed on Iran, America
will be destroyed by Russia, China and the SCO. This is the war of
Armageddon and you can know it is now because of Planet X and the toxic
chemtrails that hide it every day. Planet X will end the war when it
rips the earth apart again but 90% of Americans will be dead already.
All planned by your evil government.
This is LIES! the chemtrails are hiding Planet X!
The entire government are evil treasonous criminals. The day of the next
false flag using the nuke they stole in 2007 and blamed on Iran, America
will be destroyed by Russia, China and the SCO. This is the war of
Armageddon and you can know it is now because of Planet X and the toxic
chemtrails that hide it every day. Planet X will end the war when it
rips the earth apart again but 90% of Americans will be dead already.
All planned by your evil government.
Great article, but using the term ‘chemtrails’ causes many who are first exposed to this information to shut down and block all incoming facts. For that reason alone, ‘geoengineering’ is preferable. It registers as scientific with them, whereas ‘chemtrails’ registers in their brain as ‘tin-foil hat’.
Totally agree on that point. Well done, Cyndi…
That very well may be. But it isn’t just geo-engineering… it is, by definition, biological warfare, as well. From chemicals–emitted by airplanes.
Let us not get ground in euphemisms. They are “chemtrails,” whether or not it offends the sensibilities of the unattuned.
I contend that this shirking of the grim realities of our age must stop. Better to bring the unaware to the ultimate truth than to gild the lily, as it were.
I understand, and the more others understand, and the sooner this spraying stops, the better.
The problem lies in the fact that many are psychologically unable to handle the enormity of this crime to which they are vulnerable and personally (edit: individually) powerless.
Introduce them to it gradually using the perpetrators’ language and they can become stronger, and can eventually face the naked facts.
Stop chemtrails by the introduction of gradual “understanding?” The problem is psychological? Maybe so. Yes, perhaps wing-nuts are clouding the issue (so to speak) by warning people too soon, that it may already be too late.
THEY (the PTB) may have the timeline to introduce us to whatever They may have planned for us, but whatever that time-scale is we are not bound by it. If the hoi polloi refuse to notice and acknowledge that the pot is boiling under them, if they in fact pronounce you yet another tinfoil wing-nut (sure they will, Cyndi, I bet they already have), why must we call being cooked like a frogs anything other than what it is? Come up with all the fancy terms you like for control and extermination of “useless eaters,” but that is Their objective and is often the very real outcome of what is being done to us at all levels, on all fronts: nutritional, educational, pharmacological, economic, legal, private, public, and political. Culling the herd.
“Chemtrails” are a very discrete, very observable phenomenon. Yet there are people who literally cannot see them. Like colorblindness: you say red or green, they say gray. You point into the sky and say gray, they say: “We were taught in school that the sky is blue.”
We’re not going to fix stupid by renaming it early-onset pattern-recognition-deficit disorder, or calling it “otherly cognitive.” Use “the perpetrators’ language,” Cyndi? We’re not going to wake people up by singing them a lullaby.
How many linguistic hoops must we go through to alert people to toxic tap water and foods, obviously dumbed-down progeny, deadly drugs from smiling doctors, tanks on Main Street, machines watching our every move?
I know, wing-nuts talk this way.
Wing nuts…there’s a bewildering gazillion types, shapes, and sizes of mechanical nuts. Know what’s neat about a steel wing-nut? You don’t need a tool chest of “expert” tools to make it work. A child of six can see and understand the logic and function of it, any kid can screw one on and take it off.
It’s after people get older and more educated that they need experts to explain to them how things are “supposed” to be connected together. It’s when they’ve turned stupid that they need to be talked to gently like they’re idiots.
Excellent post, Average Joe, but I must take a few exceptions to it. Forgive me if I fail to cove all, or even if I misinterpret something that you said. I’m hampered by the fact that my only internet at this time is via my phone, and a cantankerous phone at that. Somehow, my lollipop 5.xx does not work well with my browser, and it can take enormous amounts of time trying to get what I want into my comments.
You have made valid points. When I saw what was happening, I became angry, but that’s just me. It’s probably also the relatively few who aren’t afraid to call a spade a spade and speak up.
Unfortunately, most people aren’t like that, and even some who are like that are too afraid to poke their heads up for fear of being targeted, either by govt or by their cohorts.
I had one person acknowledge the existence, yet explain it away as being due to ‘cutting down all the pine trees which clean the air’.
I’ve had another acknowledge it then a month later totally ‘forget’ They acknowledged it.
Once, a year old 60 year old relative and I walked out onto her porch one night and she looked up and commented on how she loves looking looking up at the stars like that’. I looked up to see a murky sky with few stars visible and commented that I remember when you could look up and see a gazillion stars. She got angry for nothing more than that.
Why do these people do this? Why do they blame it on illogical causes, forget they knew about it, or get angry? It’s because the magnitude of the crime scares them shi(r)tless, in some cases, or because they’ve seen all of the labels placed upon us, and they aren’t strong enough to withstand the criticism and name calling, or they don’t want their herd abandoning them. For some, the shock is just too great, and they go into a psychosis of sorts. I saw one person do it for 3-4 seconds on a related topic.
How many people have noticed and try in some large or small way to expose it and fight it and stop it? However many that is, it isn’t enough because it is still done to this day.
I’m not a herd animal, but there is strength in numbers, and the more people who wake up to this massive agenda, the better, and the sooner they wake up, the sooner it will stop. They have to learn at their own speed, and they will learn the facts at their own pace, but in the meantime they will fight chemtrails and its anti-life effects under the name of ‘geoengineering’ …and every anti-chemtrail fighter added is an asset, and I’m willing to do what it takes for more to awaken. A euphemism isn’t the bogeyman, it isn’t some unforgivable ‘sin’ or defect.
I’ve not given up, and I’m not deluded into thinking that by calling it ‘chemtrails’ I will survive while those who cannot call it ‘chemtrails’ will perish. We’re all in it together, no matter what word we use to label it.
Geoengineering is a LIE! Tin foil hat sht is government propaganda. The chemtrails are hiding Planet X!
Do you want chemtrails stopped, or do you want them to continue?
The assumption/presumption here is that if everyone on the planet (other than those in the loop, one way or another) knew something weird was going on in our skies, it would all just naturally stop. Why should it?
Vast numbers of First Worlders know their tap water is unsafe to drink or even bathe in, which has given rise to a huge industry providing bottled water and filtering apparatus. Municipal systems are still pumping fluoride, chlorine, lead, antibiotics and other waste pharmaceuticals, poorly filtered sewage and factory farm run-off, fracking toxins and god-knows-what-else into our homes. This, originally without our knowledge.
Now with our knowledge, despite the PTB having lied to us about the quality of our tap water for decades, and continuing to do so. The Powers That Be, in this and in ALL cases involving serious threats to the public welfare, can be defined as those above your level of Need To Know. There are probably many levels of PTB above the US, UK, and European HOGs [Heads of Government] who operate on a limited NTK basis. They aren’t cleared for the higher truths. Their job is to look important and tell you what they are told to tell you: only what you need to know.
This why whenever there is revealed evidence of something going on, they ignore, deny, or obfuscate the truth of what is obviously going on. Chemtrails are a classic example of something obviously going on, which have been ignored till enough people were screaming about them, now being denied, soon to be “clarified” by people talking much like Dale Ruff.
I’m 54, and I never thought that anything would awaken the masses to earnestly fight the establishment, either, yet here we are, ‘living through history that will be talked about forever.’
Lots of chem trails all over Alaska too…I started noticing it 30 years ago, as tic tac toe patterns are not regular flight patterns for normal jets…The trails never disappeared, but instead they grew until the perfectly blue sky was completely clouded over! Conspiracy theory my A$$! I’ve been using Elcampane (root) tincture (a great natural expectorant) to keep the phlegm from building up..You can grow and make it yourself, or buy it online…
It is very simple. We are under attack by the Banks and the “corporations that have grown up around them” that Jefferson warned us were more dangerous than standing armies.
These murderous satanic pedophile elites read Sun Tzu and other military manuals. They seek to destroy the population of the US slowly so they can have our nice infrastructure for themselves.
Vaccines filled with poison, air filled with poison, poison injected in to the water in the name of “fracking.” Then they own the drug companies that sell us “treatments,” the bottled water companies, and mark my word, here it comes, they want to sell us air. That’s why they are destroying it.
Embrace and encourage the breakthrough energy systems that are finally making through the suppression. Use them to build local year round greenhouses, protected from these poisons. Join with community and learn what real wealth is, then we will create local currencies and even local peer to peer internet.
Employee owned businesses, public banking and industrial hemp are also real solutions.
We CAN break free from the bottom up, and end the slavery being imposed on us.
If we want any change from the top down, there is only one critical issue. We must be rid of corporate controlled voting machines. Paper ballots, counted in public will save our democracy, nothing else.
I just opened up a community facebook page. It’s time we organize biweekly phone conferences where we discuss strategies for organized fight back. Because unless we do, nothing will change. Join me on FB at: Chemtrails Fightback
Done.
This is stupid! the evil government is going to have 90% of Americans exterminated in WW3! What is your stupid FB page going to do? Remove the evil government or die in WW3!
So we should just wait & let them kill us rather than fightback? Have you ever heard of the French, Russian, or Chinese revolution? Revolution is possible as these movements showed.
The UN’s IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) are responsible for the chemtrails which are being sprayed under false pretenses. The IPCC is blatantly falsifying data by eliminating any reference to the Medieval Warm Period, and the Little Ice Age which they originally were reporting in 1991, but then REMOVED from their graph in 2001 because these historical periods, which were both much warmer and much colder than any we’ve been experiencing today, didn’t jive with their false narrative of so called “climate change.”
So they removed any mention of them when they created the “Hockey Stick Graph” in 2001 that was popularized by Al Gore. This massive evil scam is being done for the purpose of creating a global carbon dictatorship to empower the UN and to destroy the sovereignty of nations.
Ostensibly, the “purpose” of spraying billions of tons of toxic heavy metals and other substances into our biosphere is to “reflect the sun’s rays” back into space to “protect us” from something thats not even real in the first place! Respected climatologists are telling us now that we’re ACTUALLY in the midst of a 17 year COOLING trend, so all this talk of “Global Warming” is a lie! The truth is that we’ve ALWAYS had periods of “climate change” caused by that thing in the sky called the SUN! We’ve ALWAYS HAD periods of greater or lesser SOLAR ACTIVITY such as during the Medieval Warm Period when they had a more Mediterranean like climate in England when they used to have Vineyards around London in the 1100s, or the Little Ice age in the 1700s when the Thames River froze solid! Both were much WARMER and much COLDER than anything we’re experiencing today!
We’re being sprayed with Billions of tons of toxic heavy metals including aluminum oxide, barium, strontium, cobalt, arsenic, also toxic heavy metals including mycoplasma and ethylene dibromide, and we’re also being sprayed with weaponized parasites that were tweaked in a bioweapons lab at Stanford University and we have the patent numbers on some of the tweaked microorganisms that are being sprayed on us for the purpose of hijacking our natural biology and turning it synthetic.
These weaponized parasites are causing Morgellons disease.
Date
Morgellons
Builds Semiconductor Radio Parts Interfaced With Biosensors Into Your
Body Linked to a Remote Neural Connection System Allowing Us To Be
Completely Controlled by Artificial Intelligence
We are not powerless to protect ourselves from the billions of tons of toxic heavy metals, the toxic chemicals or the weaponized parasites being sprayed on us, but we have to first become aware of what is happening, and WHY it is happening! I am a Naturopath and have been reporting on chemtrails and how to protect ourselves for several years. Please go to IAHF DOT COM and go to my archived newsletters. You will find the link on my front page along with a sign up menu if you’d like to subscribe.
Because Chemtrails has been labeled ‘conspiracy theory’ when one uses this title one gets blasted as an idiot. If one uses the term Geoengineering or Cloud seeding, one reaches more people. Ahhh Cyndi has also brought this up! Yup, the ‘tin-foil hat’ and one is thrown into the trash. I’ve been trying to get answers from actual geoengineers and earth scientists. NOT using the term Chemtrails I get an awful lot farther. With SCIENTISTS. Keep in mind that most scientists have bills to pay and they get their money from grants and they have been told if they go against the standards set by our government or say anything against the ‘science’ our politicians have set out as truth…they will not get any more money. The scientists, especially the Nobel Prize winning scientists THAT ARE RETIRED or self sufficient ARE talking about Chemtrails, global ‘warming’ and stuff that we should know BECAUSE they aren’t under the government’s thumb for grants!! This is a very big deal. And clearly show what is truth and what our government would rather have us all believe…
The greater the number of people who support ending this spraying the sooner this spraying will end, and the sooner this spraying ends the better off are all of Earth’s inhabitants whether animal or vegetable.
Refusing to speak in terms that those too psychologically vulnerable to handle the whole truth can accept is self-defeating, and only prolongs the attacks upon us.
There is no reason to expect the spraying to EVER end, REGARDLESS of how many people know about it because this is being orchestrated at a shadow government level far BEYOND our ability to ever stop it at any national or state level or in ANY court (which the elite control.) The best we can do is to learn what this is, why its happening, and how to PROTECT OURSELVES from it via detoxification. See my archived newsletters at http://ymlp.com/archive_gjbeuhgjgu.php and subscribe at http://www.iahf.com by scrolling down to the opt in menu. We are NOT POWERLESS to defend ourselves, but there is no way we’re ever going to stop this spraying.
Dale is doing the man version of gossiping, except he is not listening to Marge down the street who is a shut-in, but rather “credible scientists all agree…” and not a single scientist can be vetted for veracity by all and sundry who have to suffer through Dale Ruff bloggery.
I live in Calgary Alberta Canada. I’m aware of the Chemtrails but didn’t think much about them here in my area. I live in a part of the city very far away from the airport, but oddly the last few months I’ve been woken up by the sound of planes flying overhead. This has been going on for 3 to 4 months. Within that same period I’ve had horrible allergies, an odd feeling in my chest and problems with my asthma. I never made the connection with all of it until now. In the US you have a platform to complain and things are more out in the open. Here in Canada things are highly hidden and no one to report these kind of things to. But maybe it’s about time I started doing some digging.
I felt like I was in a fog for almost a month in February. For over two weeks I had just zero energy, but no other symptoms. The mental fog was the worst. I felt like a shell of a person. I couldn’t remember anything about my days in detail for two weeks. I live in western Washington, I have video of spraying for srm, same plane going back and forth for hours, turned a perfect blue sky day at 9am into a 100% hazy mess by 1pm. I watched the trails spread and combine. Didn’t notice the trails before my illness, bit matches the symptoms. The foggy mind anyway, I felt like I was trapped inside my body, like an observer to my life. It was weird, and unsettling.
Here in Norway bastards are spraying us like crazy.. Media are as usaly very silent .. We now miss the sun every day .. I think they now have totaly ruin the natural weather systems like weather was in the begining of the 90s . This spraying agenda problably have several levels.. To control humans and prepere us for the new world order.. Bad people doing evil! I belive it is same people doing 911 bombings for sure ! just a dirty game for this son of a guns.. They sure now want to make us sick and silent !
Do you receive any funding from Dane Wiggington or any businesses in which he has a financial interest?
something in the sky they don’t want you to see so they use chemtrails to block the clouds? here in chicago south side they chmetrail everyday and so you never see blue clouds only white milky clouds. at night time you can actually see chemtrails particles falling down if you look closely at the lights outside. Chemtrails make me sick they give me flu like symptoms.
I’m in Chicago too. Ride the Blue Line sometime. Around Damen-California it’s the best view of chemtrail activity in all directions. What I’ve noticed, is that the majority of spraying is in the west and the east. They are blocking the energy in sunrise and sunset. Look into the east in the morning. The Sun is nearly white and blinding, because of all the aluminum that is continually up in the air. Even on days when it’s finally clear (around noon or so), they spray like crazy in the west so that by 5-6 p.m. the sunset is already partially, if not completely, blocked. Someone is blocking (at least partially) the Sun’s energy from larger populations. Friends in NYC, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Miami, Salt Lake City, and Houston say the exact same thing. They spray primarily to block the east in the morning and west in the evening.
Kelly. I know exactly what you are saying. I can feel the same thing. Like there is something my body is trying to fight constantly. I feel sluggish, no energy, stuffy or runny nose, headaches, severe body aches and more. There are so many chemtrails, more than I have ever seen. What can we do about this?
Chemtrails are used in conjunction with microwave transmissions to change our DNA (and that of all living things including plants) at a cellular level. The primary reason this is being done is to make preparations for extraterrestrial visitors that cannot survive in earth’s natural existing climate. It is also being done to control the population of earth when that time arrives. The secondary cause is to create a drought in the southwest, especially in southern CA where much of our produce comes from.
Of course no one will believe this explanation because they believe it is just too far out there.