By Michael Snyder
If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America.
The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones.
Let’s be very clear about this – Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their “off the grid lifestyle”, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.
A lot of my readers also lead “off the grid” lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as “extremely happy”. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case…
On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriff’s officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.
During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicole’s custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.
At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.
And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country…
How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.
But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicole’s shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs…
Joe was able to arrange transportation to meet his wife where the stop had taken place.
Joe attempted to get out of the car to speak with the officers and his wife, and to recover the vehicle Nicole had been driving. The Sheriff, with his hand on his sidearm, ordered Joe back into the car. Joe complied with that request. The sheriff informed Joe that he had every intention of making this as difficult as possible for them and that their car would be impounded, despite the fact that Joe was there onsite to recover it.
A friend, who had driven Joe to the location, got out of the car to speak with the Sheriff.
She was able to convince the Sheriff to let Joe recover the vehicle. Joe also recovered Nicole’s cell phone, which had been recording audio the entire time.
The Sheriff ordered Joe to turn the remaining eight children over to Breckinridge County Sheriff’s deputies by 10:00 a.m., and threatened him with felony charges if he does not comply.
Joe did comply with the Sheriff’s order, and now their kids have been scattered by CPS among families in four separate counties…
As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that CPS chose – families the Nauglers don’t know.
Shame on you Kentucky. You are supposed to be better than this.
One of the most disturbing elements of this entire incident is that Child Protective Services never visited the Nauglers a single time and never gave them any indication that anything was wrong. The following comes from Off The Grid News…
Child Protective Services never visited the home, said Ellsworth, who believes the arrests took place because of the parents’ choice of “unschooling” for their children, and because of their simple way of life that some would call backwards. The family’s Facebook page calls it a “back to basics life.” They have a garden and raise animals.
Deputies apparently were concerned about whether the children’s needs were being met, but friends say they personally have no concerns — and that the children are blessed to have Joe and Nicole as their parents.
How would you like it if government thugs raided your home and took your children away because they considered your lifestyle to be “backwards”?
What in the world is happening to this country?
Like I said earlier, what happened to the Nauglers is not an isolated incident. These kinds of things are happening all over the nation. For example, just consider the abuse that one homeschooling family received in New Jersey…
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, a WND report highlights how parents were interrogated by a CPS caseworker who questioned Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, “on everything from their son’s homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.”
Michelle Marchese aggressively demanded to enter the property after asserting Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a “proper education.” Police subsequently arrived and allowed Marchese to enter the home before conducting a warrantless search.
The Zimmers are now suing the CPS for $60 million in a case before the U.S. District Court in Trenton.
I very much hope that the Zimmers win that case and collect a huge monetary award.
All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies.
If we do not stand with families like the Nauglers, control freak bureaucrats will continue to harass families that have chosen to live a “basic” lifestyle all over the nation. So let’s stand with them and make this case viral all over the Internet.
And Kentucky, get your act together and send those kids back home. You are supposed to be so much better than this.
This article first appeared here at the American Dream. Michael Snyder is a writer, speaker and activist who writes and edits his own blogs The American Dream and Economic Collapse Blog. Follow him on Twitter here.
The pigs were probably spying on their Facebook.
I read Facebook was funded by the CIA.
This site has a lot of similar stories: medicalkidnap
I agree. I feel this would be a good place to post something I said two days ago:
I would like to take this opportunity to inform anyone who is not already aware that Facebook is essentially a government spying operation. From the Huffington Post:
“Since leaked documents revealed that Internet companies like Apple, Facebook and Google were giving the National Security Agency vast access to people’s online information under a scheme codenamed PRISM, those Silicon Valley titans have taken pains to deny participation in such a program.
But now, the NSA’s top lawyer says that just isn’t true.
When asked at a hearing on Wednesday whether tech companies knew about and assisted with PRISM’s data collection, Rajesh De, the NSA’s general counsel, said “Yes.”
Not only is Facebook just the shiny, consumer-friendly facade of Federal BlackOPS/Psyops programs, but Facebook has been caught blatantly lying about PRISM and noone even batted an eye (pretty easy to control popular opinion, though, when you control all the airwaves and have the ability to shadowban certain posts on the remaining social media platforms). And not only is everything you do online or through a phone stored permanently, it is actively accessed and proccessed using algorithmic software that allows the fascists to wring value from this massive amount of data and basically know the social networks of the whole populace, as well as what people are considered targets, people who may “rock the boat” too much and be a threat to the current ruling elite.
If you think Facebook is just an innocent platform with no consequences for using it, think again. If you plan on simply going along with the status quo at a time when it is imperative for people to collectively Rise up against widespread oppression, then no it isn’t as comparatively dangerous for you to use Facebook. But if you are like me, and understand there is a war going on and it is the responsibility and the duty of all conscious People to agitate for liberty and freedom, then I exhort you to practice security culture when it comes to FedBook or any other spyware used to centralize power in this Information Age even further. A link to help you with this:
http://security.resist.ca/personal/securityzine3.pdf
And a link putting much everything I said in a humorous, TL;DR version:
http://www.theonion.com/…/cias-facebook-program-dramaticall…
So be careful out there, brothers and sisters. And rest easy knowing they only operate this way out of fear – we will win in the end anyways, and we will win for them as much as we will win for us.
Blessings!
Just a little off topic, but relevant…….. A recent article on zerohedge disclosed that the Swiss Central Bank ,SCB, that prints their money owns over $30 billion of Apple stock. They also own Google and Facebook stock. The SCB is the only central bank to disclose their assets. Is it a coincident that central banks are buying stocks in American corporations that implement the NSA global spy program? The stock market is rigged. The CIA/NSA fund all the startups in Silicon Valley for obvious reasons, global mind control. They CIA/NSA seem to “own” the stock market, too. Are central banks printing money, converting it to dollars and buying US stocks? That almost sounds like laundering counterfeit money.
I think it’s much more likely the NSA.
Snitch? Was likely made up IMO. Well done.
Another reason that I don’t do Facebook. I thought it was a bad idea way before the NSA stuff. Nowadays I suspicions are confirmed.
This is likely a symbiotic relationship with commercial adoption.
This is what tyranny looks like.
It is imperative that we as a Nation fail this latest Litmus test.
Here’s the toll free # for Kentucky’s version of ‘Child Protective Services’.
1-877-597-2331
I hope they need a fire extinguisher for their phone.
Called two days ago. Thanks.
I still can’t get over the fact that these two people are over-breeding. I was too disgusted by that to care about them, gotta say.
I can’t get over the fact that your mother had been over-breeding as well. That you are consuming air disgusts me also.
Thank you! Good post.
Well, their children were happy and healthy. Maybe we should just bring in a bunch of illegal catholic breeder aliens, or Muslims to fill up the nation if you don’t want good people to breed according to YOUR standards.
i grew up in a family of 10, and it was usually great. If you don’t know, haven’t been there, stop judging.
How the frick do you know that the kids are happy and healthy!? Because Michael Snyder says so?
You’re right. i saw several pictures in links – pictures that people complained about because the kids were muddy and not meeting bloated societal perceptions – and the kids were smiling in them and seemed happy.
i suppose those may be the only ones shown or publicly available. One wouldn’t tend to post the thumbscrews, whips, chains, and beatings – whether they take place in the backwoods, the schools, or in crusty upper class homes.
Yep.
Over at InfoWars: The family also addressed allegations made by their estranged son,
19-year-old Alex Brow, who claims that he left because he was subjected
to violent and sexual abuse at the hands of Joe Naugler. The post
asserted that the claims stem from Brow’s “upbringing away from us and
his strained relationship with his mother.”
i have to admit – my prejudice is slipping through. i moved to WVa in Nov 3, ’83 – onto 40.81 acres of raw land – trees and overgrown “clear flats” on the little bit of bottomland. We lived in a literal tent until my “house” – 12 feet X 24 feet could be built. i had to literally carry everything in on my back and in the wheelbarrow – until it was stolen – over a quarter mile.
No power for 10 years – a little generator at the end.
Draft horse, milk cow, chikens, at various times goats, sheep, geese. Two kids running buck naked through the woods in summer, our water coming from a gravity spring – the water heater an old gas water heater i converted to use wood. One hour’s fire and you had 30 gallons of boiling water which we ALL were sure to mix heavily with the piped cold water.
At the end, i was a state homeschool area representative – and yes i know some people shouldn’t homeschool. Guess our problems tended toward “christian” groups trying to take us over rather than people abusing kids – which is always a possibility, whether one schools them with others or homeschools them. Bad parenting is bad parenting and smears wherever it tries to grow.
So maybe i am making assumptions about the family. The surface things i hear people whine about are bullshit societal paraigms that aren’t holding water – the living space, the kids playing in the mud, etc. Those are all things that can be worked around. If these people haven’t bothered to do so, then they are not the sharpest knives in the sheath.
If the children are (and likely are) as or more healthy than their average age peer group, then the known benefits of avoiding “Clorox Mom” syndrome are paying off.
I have no problem with mud or parents who want to do what they want to do.
Everyone screaming at me that the kids are happy and healthy when it is simply what they WANT to believe really pissed me off.
And now, the eldest son, possibly a different mother, I am not sure, says his daddy beat and sexually molested him. And commenters don’t want to even believe that!
We don’t know the truth. Plain and simple.
I can have these thoughts and also not be in support of government trying to tell us what to do with our lives.
Another article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3077706/Alex-Brow-Joe-Naugler-s-son-testifies-against-free-range-father-Kentucky-court.html
i have sisters with implanted “abuse memories” put into them by “counselors” in their 20s. Could this be a parallel?
How will we ever know? It really is not our business.
If anybody “over-bred”, it was your parents.
ZING! Good one!
I agree with you !
Forgot to say I come from a family of 13, and I was the 11 th one !!! So there !!!
family of ten. Mother legally blind so only dad could work. He still managed to send us to a private christian school and high school while working construction – heavy equipment, etc. (well, they gave up on it taking in me, lol) THAT is one heck of a set of parents!
idiot!
You are an a$$. I came from a large family. We don’t need trolls here.
That’s what this county was built,I am ashamed because you don’t know your history.Who grew your food?Farmers and Ranchers or monshitzso?
My Grandparents helped by breaking ground in the mid west where they had a large family so they could all prosper.Human beings need to thrive, thrive by farming and raising live stock,selling their goods.Apparently you are from the “in” crowd who grew up without.I truely am sorry for you.Why don’t folks like you,and i use that term loose-ly with “anti” human beings who wouldnt know the truth if it hit them with a barn door.Go back to DC. where you belong,
Purely discussed in SD.
See what you get for speaking your mind! A lot of criticism. Yes, it is the country of the free but it is still unwise to be too outspoken. To all your other criticizer I have only one thing to say: it is the country of the free, you are supposed to have the right to your own opinion, even if the opinion differs from others..
I can handle being criticized in this medium where one comment stirs people into reaction. It is not a big deal. In this day and age with what is happening on the planet people should not be creating 14 new people. It is ridiculous!
Poor city slicker. Only child, I’m guessing?
Agreed. Having that many when there are so many starving is the height of selfishness. They see the increase in tyranny and want to provide more subjects? If theres one thing this story illustrates is that you cannot protect them.
There is a lot of disinformation online. I don’t even know if I should believe this story. I used to live in KY. Anyhow, regarding natural resources like food and water, and medicine, housing etc, I used to think we are definitely too many ppl on this planet. But then I read there is enough food for everybody, food scarcity is a lie, a way to manipulate us. I thought okay, but there is definitely not enough water. Then last night I came across a video claiming drought in California is a lie! Jeeezus! *shaking my head* So what is true??? Re this KY family, if they even exist, why would a woman give birth to so many kids? OMG! That idea is just overwhelming to me. Giving birth is not exactly picnic in a park! And then feed them and clothes them and make sure they are safe etc. And then life happened and now the kids are gone. So obviously this idea was not so good… Is it right to take the kids away from their parents? Of course not! Now the kids will have a psychological problem for the rest of their lives. Our society just doesn’t work, for anybody!
Many self sufficient country folks (all over) have big families to help out. What better community than family?
These people aren’t on the dole burdening us.
Looks like they honor life to me.
This doesn’t belong in the same breath as big families playing the welfare game in our big cities.
Yep. On the farm or homestead, kids are your affordable work force. Lots and lots to do means a new kid every year or so, until all the work is covered.
I would rather see these ten kids in one family, with two parents, being raised in a healthy human manner any day over ten kids, in ten families, with twenty parents, half of whom are not present, living stunted lives in little apartments, addled with Ritalin and antidepressants so they can tolerate the boredom of being brainwashed in public schools.
The corporatocracy that we are living under in this country doesn’t want us living off the grid as self-sufficient independent thinking individuals. They only want good little mind controlled soldiers that follow all directives with no questions asked. As a former teacher I applaud parents that home school so their children are not indoctrinated into the lies of public education. Our history books have been skewed by the progressives in this country. CPS has no good intentions as they are paid royally to steal children for illegal adoptions and pedophiles. Please help this family fight the good fight.
Yes sir, this is 100% true.
Individual / personal / food/ mind SOVEREIGNTY means independance from their satanic economic /political system. They can not allow people to think and to be free!
Benediction & Light & Love & Strength to this beautiful family
Ok, here we go: I did!
Breckinridge County Sheriff’s Office
PO Box 127
Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143
Phone:(270) 756-2361
Dispatch: (270) 756-6266
Fax: (270) 756-5444
Email: [email protected]
Thank you, FM. Did you get any kind of response?
Yes, the lady said she was besieged with profane calls and the phones were ringing all the time. She said there was a criminal charge against the Dad, gave the number for Clerk of Court but I never called. My point was the kidnapping of the yunguns.
This is a time when we should all be examining our allegiances:
Who we give our money to.
Who we are employed by.
Who we support, associate with.
In times of war, those who are complicit in a takeover are known as collaborators.
Money is no longer a justification.
Collaborators deserve to be shunned by their community for their association.
Council members, code enforcement, officials supporting vaccinations, Commoncore, CPS employees, etc..
‘It’s my job’ is no longer good enough.
They are often followers; time to demonstrate something bigger and better to follow.
It is one of the best tools we have left.
In small villages, a potential thief would never steal.
Our well being is being stolen.
Good post! A thinker!^^^^^
You can bet the criminal charge against the father is something they came up with after they took the kids. That makes it either bogus or a direct result of the Sheriff’s actions.
Either way, of all our government’s intrusions into our lives these days, what truly is most despicable is what they’re doing to our children.
Imagine if that $60 million were not allowed to be paid by the taxpayers, but instead was required to come out of the department’s POLICE BUDGET? This shit would end virtually OVERNIGHT, would it not?
Time to start bending the ear of your congresscritters, people. Ask him or her to sponsor a law to that effect: the taxpayers are SICK AND TIRED of paying for the crimes and misdeeds of cops. Sponsor a law that requires monetary judgements against police forces to be paid for out of the budget of the PD itself; the law must specify that the cost may NOT be passed on to the taxpayers.
And where does the money from the PD come from?
You are so, SO CLEVER!! The difference is this: if it comes out of the police budget, THEY DON’T GET ANY MORE MONEY UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
Payments from the general fund are handled differently; no matter how many pay-outs for settlements there are, they get paid. It’s “magic”.
The police budget is written once a year. If they have to pay out a judgement, they’re gonna have to sell some armored vehicles and computers, some weapons or whatever, and tighten their 46-inch belts.
Start holding officials of all kinds PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for that which they are complicit?
The problem with taking the judgement out of the PD’s budget is it punishes the good cops along with the bad. That’s why I advocate mandatory, individually purchased, professional malpractice insurance for anyone to work as a cop, and eventually expanded into a work requirement for all “public servants”, including these slimeballs at CPS. If we have to buy car insurance to drive, these government employees shouldn’t mind having to purchase liability coverage when they are in a position to do such great harm to members of the public.
How can I help? Who do I contact… the sheriff ?
Don’t the voters decide who they want for sheriff? Maybe the next time he runs the folks should in his county should be made aware of the job he’s doing.
We have only heard one side of this story and because of that I am forced to hold back. If they treated Mrs Naugler was really treated as badly as the article states maybe we could get the agitators that worked up the folks in Boston and Ferguson to visit the Breckinridge County seat and demand the officers involved be dismissed from the force.
You do not own your children. Once you sign a birth certificate, they become wards of the state.
I would equate government to the police. I would not use WND as a source, since they are a leading Obama is a Kenyan advocate and have had many scandals. We need the government to reign in the police. To conflate gubmint with police brutalty is to mistake a perverted part for the whole.
Is it possible the children were not being educated? Could they read, write, etc?
I hate police brutality. I think people have a right to live off the grid, but this article lumps abuses all together, using very dubious sources, to continue the assault on government, which we need to take back, not abandon.
I am weary of the government is evil meme; unaccountable undemocratic government is evil. We need to create a democratic republic. We will not achieve this by claiming, as Reagan did (before expanding the government more than anyone in history), that government is the problem. Fascist government is the problem; democratic government is the solution. It does no good to blame progressives, since they are the champions of democracy and uniformly are calling for an end to the Police State. The Kentucky police are NOT progressives, folks. Stop scapegoating those who are working to make government accountable and end police brutality.
The government IS evil.
I’m weary of it too, but it is a “meme” that is well founded in both history and modernity.
You aren’t going to “reform” it. That is just the “devil” (George Soros, Koch Brothers, etc) whispering in your ear.
Once government becomes big and powerful and all intrusive, it becomes the play thing of the rich and powerful.
You can’t “reform” that, all you can do is keep it small and dispersed; like the Founding Fathers envisioned.
-Ken
LaserGuidedLoogie.com
Repost updated info with shortened links for easy copy and paste.
Breckinridge County Courthouse
Attn: Maurice Lucas
208 South Main Street #212
PO Box 227
Hardinsburg, KY 40143-0227
[email protected]
District Judges
Shan Embry and Herald Goff
it was either judge Embry or judge Goff that cosigned them kids getting taken away by CPS
270-756-2269
270-756-2239
270-756-2364 (fax)
Breckinridge County County Attorney
Bradley Butler
Address : PO Box 232, Hardinsburg, Kentucky 40143
Phone : 270-756-2791
Fax : 270-756-5459
Sheriff Pate
Breckinridge County Sheriff’s Office
PO Box 127
Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143
Phone:(270) 756-2361
Dispatch: (270) 756-6266
Fax: (270) 756-5444
[email protected]
Breckinridge County Justice Center – Child Protective Services
Hardinsburg, KY
(270) 756-2194
Spokes person for CPS Anya Weber at 502-564-6786 ext. 3104
Cabinet for Health and Family Services http://chfs.ky.gov/os/ocar/
County Sheriff: http://bit.ly/1cguub4
County sheriff #2: http://bit.ly/1JUyPz0
Child kidnappings in CPS Kentucky adoption business: http://bit.ly/1IWd3tp
medicalkidnap http://bit.ly/1bEpKvn
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Save our family: http://bit.ly/1PrtVYN
Family facebook page: http://on.fb.me/1H4D8nU
Contact Joe from the family http://bit.ly/1H4gRqd
Raw audio of incident: http://bit.ly/1H4eTGw
Official GoFundMe page: http://bit.ly/1bDEPx7
Rand Paul office directly at 202-224-4343
http://1.usa.gov/1IWgMav
Local NEWS Media WXBC 270-756-1043
KY OathKeepers http://bit.ly/1Pv8tC8
ORDER OF THINGS FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO HELP:
1 – visit the families webpage to get the facts so you can make informed decisions.
Save our family: http://bit.ly/1PrtVYN
2 – donate to help family. Official GoFundMe page: http://bit.ly/1bDEPx7
3 – call the sheriff and tell him politely we will assemble to get the kids back.
Phone:(270) 756-2361
4 – call the CPS and tell them politely we will assemble to get the kids back.
Anya Weber at 502-564-6786 ext. 3104
5 – contact KY oathkeepers and ask them to get involved. KY Oath Keepers http://bit.ly/1Pv8tC8
6 – share this info with everyone and get involved and get ready to assemble.
7 – keep this info at the top of the comments and dont let it get buried
You know, there is only one way to get this to end, right? Wishing it away, calling your congress-critter, calling the po-lice… is not going to make that happen. Because in the end… you are still compliant little sheep. Because they are laughing at you and saying, “What are you going to do? Wish it away? Call congress or the po-lice and complain? Go ahead. You think we really care? Boo!”
Unfortunately the public doesnt realize that the registration of a child
(also: car, home, business, vote etc.) is an act of passing ownership to the
govt.
If people would only look into this & the fact that govts are not govts,
they are they are CORPORATONS ACTING UNLAWFULLY and get together, we would put a
stop to ALL the nonsense we are experiencing today.
If those children are not registered the govt entities have no right to touch
them, even by their own fictional laws.
These people may be able to help.
New Earth Nation web site: http://www.newearthnation.org
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http://www.ThePeoplesBranch.org
Their first mistake was using facebook. Second was opening the door for the sheriff since there was no warrant. Third was not having lawyer on speed dial.
As for those haters who condemn them for having too many children; it is none of your business as long as they can afford to raise them to be healthy, & productive without taxpayer funding.
That said is there an address or go fund me page to help with their defense? What is the so called criminal charge against the father & how would that precipitate taking away the children?
Connecting a couple of dots I wish more people could see: Part of the problem here is government acting as employer of last resort for people with worthless liberal arts degrees in order to prop up the value of those degrees for the banks who are making a fortune on the student loan bubble. Once those newly-minted petty dictators get the job they are so eager find some reason to exist that they go out and do the stupidest shit imaginable without a moment’s reflection on what they’re doing. Multiply that action by the millions of bureaucratic interactions with citizens from every conceivable alphabet soup agency and you have a recipe for national collapse.
” He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.” — Declaration of Independence
This family looks and sounds like they are decent, happy and caring people. I think the new world order cops and CPS workers can’t tolerate this. They are a perfect target for these Nazis because they are a normal family with honest values. What kind of satanic cop slams a pregnant woman into a car? These cops and CPS workers need to be fired. I hope the family sues them personally and the agencies they work for.
If I were the family, I would get the names of each and every person who participated in this action and, along with the agencies that sent them, sue each of them for entry without a warrant, the taking of the children, again, without warrants and failure to act without probable cause. Abuse to the pregnant mother as the officer did is what I deem assault without provication. The case against Common Core is here where parents choose to give their children a decent education and care. Get yourselves a good attorney who will K A! Living off the grid should be the way we all need to be. This is another stage of socialism; much like Hitler’s Germany and the Soviet Union was. We need to be as free as we want to be.
The people need to stand up and be counted along with their neighbors. We all need to stand together and let those bastards know we will not be shut down! Sock it to ’em. We must bring back our Constitution as the only form of being a Repbulic! Democracy be damned! Socialism be damned! If you haven’t yet figured it out, that’s the direction they’re takeing us! We the people do not have a central government and haven’t had it since before 1913! We are not the stakeholders; the corporations behind the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CORPORATION are the board of directors and stake holders. They run things in Washington D.C.! Wake up and smell the garlic!
Oh, one more thing; we are the first of many nations that they plan to take down to form a one-world government under the International Monetary Fund (IMF). No more U.N.; no more indivudual countries! All will be under one government with a billion or less people to govern. Their plan is to kill the majority of those existing today to meet that goal. Learn about the Illuminati who has been working on this for, at least 4 centuries. We Americans have been a stumbling block until now. As I see it, we need to continue to be a stumbling block in every way possible! As some country folk would say: “ether you’re with us or agin us”! Which are you?
Like it or not, I might suggest getting away from Facebook. Because you know who’s looking at Facebook activity, don’t you? Or if you feel a compulsion to continue with FB and living “off the grid”, at the very least I wouldn’t share things like how you school your children, how you live, etc. If you’re using the Internet, you’re really not “off the grid”. Just a friendly suggestion!